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By LARRY JAFFEE
LONDON—The following
interview with Leila Birch, who EastEnders fans know as Teresa di
Marco, was nearly a year in the making. When I was in London last January
we spoke on the phone, but her schedule in the pantomime production of
Dick Whittington didn’t allow a meeting. She’s reprising her role in
that panto again this holiday season, but this time I caught her while it
was in pre-production. We did the interview in the lobby of London’s
swanky hotel, One Aldwych. |
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WALFORD GAZETTE: So tell
me a little bit about your background. How did you become an actor?
LEILA BIRCH: I
grew up in south-east
London. I knew I wanted to act when I was five.
That’s when I saw the Fred Astaire and Judy Garland films, and all of
that. I started training when I was five or five-and-a-half and started
to go to stage school on Saturdays. And then when I was nine, I did that
full-time. So I didn’t go to a regular school. I went to a school where
in the mornings we’d have ballet-tap, singing-dancing-acting, things
like that. And then in the afternoon you’d do a limited amount of
subjects, just enough to get you by—English, biology, things like that,
but you didn’t take chemistry or science. It was really fun because we
had dance studios that we’d go into at lunchtime and play music and
dance around.
WG: Is anyone else in
your family an actor?
LB:
My great-aunt, who was
one of the “Gaiety Girls,” 1919 to 1924, around that era. We have loads
and loads of her theatre programmes.
WG: While we’re on
family, I was curious whether you have any Italian in your blood.
LB:
My grandmother’s Italian
and was born in Italy.
WG: Did that help when
you went for the part of Teresa?
LB: I
think maybe. I get taken
for Jewish, Italian, Arab people, Spanish, all kinds of different
things. And I think it’s funny because I’m as much Irish actually as I
am Italian, but no one ever says I look Irish! I still see my
grandmother. She was one of the evacuees during the war. She’s
fantastic. And then on my other side, my grandfather and grandmother
met in the Second World War. My grandfather’s a major and he’s very
‘jolly good,” all that kind of thing, very, very British. And she’s
very, very Italian. And it’s great because I mean I see those
grandparents like every week. On Sunday we go ‘round and have a
four-course meal. The whole family gets together and it’s kind of very
Italian that way. I’m very family orientated. I think it gives you a
really good base, especially in the world of show business.
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When Teresa came into the show she
was very much a party girl who didn't realise the consequences of her
actions
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WG: When did you start to
do serious theatre?
LB: I had
my first job when I
was nine. And then basically I did a whole myriad of different— bits
here and there really. I did the Children’s World Variety, and that
was dancing. I did things for children’s television programmes and little
bit parts in British films, adverts, voice-overs. When I was 15 I went to
Yale University in New Haven, CT for a five-week drama
course. I don’t think they were supposed to let me in because you know how
the Americans and the English write the date and the month the other way
‘round? They thought I was older than I actually was. They thought I was
already 16, but actually I had my 16th birthday during the course. I
don’t think anyone ever found out, so I didn’t get shipped home. |
This course opened me up to a more adult way of working with drama.
There were people from New York, Alabama, Los Angeles,
Connecticut. There was a girl from France. She and I were the only
Europeans. The course was really intensive, nine in the morning ‘till ten
at night. It was really, really hard work.
WG: How did you get
selected for that?
LB:
Well, my mum knew
someone who said, “Your daughter should find out about these courses
that go on at Yale, because they produced a lot of good actors.”
WG: What was your first
big break?
LB: Ah, I think one of
the
first things that I did that—I mean it was a small part, but it
was the first thing that was real prime time. I did an episode of a
series called Thief Takers for Carlton; I played a sexually
abused teenage girl.
I then did two years of
college, a whole lot of physical theatre and experimental theatre. In my
third year of this performing arts thing, it was more about putting on
plays. When I finished, I wrote to 190 agents and found one. I did a
television production about a reject football team, and I played this
Italian girl called Gina, who just came on and basically told some guy
who was pretending to be an Italian so that he could play good football
, “Oh, you can’t be an Italian.” He scores a great goal and then we
walked into the sunset.
I then got an audition
for EastEnders to be a baggage handler at an airport. The
episode had to do with Cindy running away with David to
Italy. As I walked to the lift the casting director said to me,
“I’m going to persuade the director not to use you for this.” And I was
like devastated... Then he said, “Because there’s an Italian family
coming in into the show. Would a six-month contract scare you?” And I
said, “No!” There was this massive gap—five or six weeks—in between
going for that audition and then coming back again. Of course, every
day’s slipping by and you’re going, “Oh, no. They just didn’t want me
at all and they lied.”
They asked me to come
back again, and I knew I was among the last five, including one of my
friends from college. We had a chat and said, “Whichever one gets it
takes the other one out, meal, as much champagne as they want.” So we’re
down to the last five and we had to like read and everything and that
was great. And then I got recalled back again, and I wasn’t sure whether
it was just me or me and two others or me and three others. The lady who
played Stella the lady who played my grandmother walked through, and I
met Marc (Bannerman, aka Gianni) and Michael (Greco aka Beppe).
WG: They were in the same
boat, basically?
LB:
We were all going for the
screen test. We all met and it was very nice. And then I had to do a
scene where I was pretending to be Nigel’s girlfriend. And I’m
thinking, “Well, maybe they want me for the girlfriend, that maybe they
don’t want me as Teresa.”
WG: Your mind plays
tricks.
LB: I
got worried and waited
for hours until maybe seven at night, just waiting. So I was, “Why would
they leave me hanging around so long?” And they were quite appreciative
that I stayed. But, of course I’d stay. I wanted the job! And then I
found out two days later that I’d got the job. Obviously I was ecstatic.
I screamed on the phone to my agent!
WG: So once the family
was set, did you bond with Mark and Michael?
LB:
Very much so. You know,
we bonded as a family, yeah. Well, not so much as siblings. Maybe
at first, but recently I saw Marc and Carly [Hillman, who played her
younger sister Nicky]. She did a gig somewhere she sings and me and Marc
and one of my other friends went to see her. They all just ended up
staying at my flat. It was fantastic, like a family reunion! When we
were working with each other, we bonded in a completely different way
than because there was almost like a kind of family edge to our
relationship with each other. I felt quite responsible for Carly.
WG: How old was she then?
LB:
I think she was about 13
or 14, but she was playing a year or so younger than she
actually was. I think my character was two years younger than my
real age. I was 19 when I got the job.
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WG: Do you have any older
brothers?
LB:
I have an older brother in real life, yes.
WG: Was he as protective as
Gianni and Beppe?
LB:
Yeah, but in a different
way, not quite as hands-on, a bit more kind of like taking a step back but
having
knowing looks. (Laughter
WG: Well, how much
difference in age between you and your brother?
LB:
Four
years.
WG: Wasn’t Gianni supposed
to be about four years older than Teresa?
LB:
Yeah, but Gianni was like
hot headed and like a bull in a china shop, but with a good heart
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Leila's real brother isn't as hands-on as Beppe and Gianni.
"If you look at her relationships, she’s a
psychotherapist’s dream really, isn’t she? ..."
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WG: What did you like
about Teresa?
LB:
When she came into the
show, she was very much a party girl who didn’t realise the
consequences of her actions. You know, she’d go out and buy drugs, but
she didn’t ever think, “Oh, I might get caught,” or “Oh, Mum might
find out.” She was rebellious. Her dad had just died, and like I don’t
think she’d gone to any counselling! So of course, she was going to
all of a sudden turn into this rebel because I think she was Daddy’s
little girl. And then her brothers obviously step in to attempt to
take the role of the
father figure, but
she’s like, “You’re my brother. Go away.” If you look at her
relationships, she’s a psychotherapist’s dream really, isn’t she? She
just shacks up with all these different blokes; and then she finds
Matthew. He trusted her in a way that really she hadn’t ever got in a
relationship. It was like, “Oh, I’ve got a problem, and you’ve got a
problem,” but it was all quite superficial. Matthew is actually the
first time you’ve seen her show any loyalty to anyone really, outside
of her family.
WG: EastEnders
gave you recognition and put-you in the public eye. How did you deal
with fame?
LB:
I’m starting to grow my hair out, and it’s like it was when I
was on the show. On the way here I had three or four people just go,
“Yeah. I know you,” or, “Yeah, hey.” But people are very nice about
it. I think my character appeals to certain cultures, because I don’t
get as many white people recognising me now as I do with Caribbean or Asian people. Maybe it’s because I played an Italian,
an apparent ethnic minority, and also because my character went out
with black people, white people, criminals, old people!
WG: Before Matthew,
Teresa had to deal with Tony turning out to be gay.
LB:
I know a lot of people who that’s happened to. From Tony’s point of
view, you can’t help who you love and you can’t help what you are.
People get into a kind of verbal contract really when you’re in a
relationship with somebody and one of the stipulations in that
contract is you don’t sleep with anyone else, you don’t kiss anyone
else. Male or female, not the point. The fact is he two-timed her with
an ex. The fact that it was a man just made it more obvious she
couldn’t compete. But she felt, “What have I done?” She had a chat
with Tony and at first she was like, “I don’t want anything to do with
you.” After a while, she just moved onto the next guy! (Laughs) I
think she thought, “I can find someone a bit more exciting.”
WG: I think
personality-wise, Matthew made the most sense.
LB:
Yeah, he was a club deejay. He was a bit more exciting. And he was
really a bit more her age. Tony was a bit older, and he’d kind of done
his really, really cool things. Now he was nice, but I think he was a
bit too settled really for her at that stage of her life. And then,
she found Matthew, and obviously Matthew was cool and he kind of ran a
CD stall, And he’ was quite nice. And he had this secret As soon as he
told her, he let her in rosily to go level where she was not only a
girlfriend. It kind of awakened something inside of her in that
protective way that was very much like her mother or her brothers had
been to her This is the first step where you actually saw her grow up
a bit
WG: Matthew’s plight
captured the Imagination of the British public.
LB:
I had this one lady come up to me in a department store. I didn’t have
the heart to tell her it wasn’t real. She just said, “Oh, you’re a
good girl, you are. My bloke’s in prison and I’m waiting for him and
you just carry on you’re a good girl” but I didn’t have the heart, you
know.
WG: But that woman’s
living it, so it is real.
LB:
Yeah,
she’s living it. And I
was thinking, “God, I hope, for her sake the script writers
don’t just suddenly make me have an affair with someone!” I was happy
that they allowed Teresa to stand by her boyfriend and do the whole
‘Free Matthew Rose’ campaign because really everybody else just turned
their back on him.
WG: Well, there was
also this interesting rivalry with Sarah, though. They were both
competing for his affection. You were talking about how Teresa was a
psychotherapist’s dream. Remember Sarah’s kleptomaniac phase, and how
she was saved by Jesus? I didn’t think Teresa would turn to religion
to solve her problems.
LB:
Teresa was a Catholic
girl, but, you know, she’s like, “Well, we go to church for Christmas
and that’s enough for me.” Yeah, she lighted the candle at Christmas
and that was probably about it.
WG: I remember an
episode that had Sarah going to the prison and saying to Teresa, “Do
you want to come too? He really wants to see you.” And she couldn’t
handle that.
LB:
Yeah. I think
that kind of
freaked her. She did go a couple of times. I remember being in the
prison set, but it was all a bit too real, I think. Teresa was
constantly escaping from who she was. And to be dealing with “My
boyfriend’s in prison. No one’s asking me what I feel about this.” You
know, she had no real friend to turn to. She had Robbie to a certain
extent. She had a competitive thing with Sarah. Everyone else really who
was close to her had left the square. And there wasn’t really anybody
who she thought she could really open up to.
WG: You just mentioned
Robbie. He really fancied Teresa, but she was only interested in him as
a friend.
LB:
Robbie had own problems
really. I mean look at that family for a start, you know. You think ours
is in big trouble. What about theirs? (Laughs)
WG: There was not really
a lot of closeness between Louise and Teresa.
LB:
There were
scenes off-camera
that we discussed, but at the end of the day it’s a soap, it’s
fast-moving and you have to realise that. I liked it when I was in the
restaurant, where I was able to give a lot of comic looks.
WG: Is there any of
Teresa in you?
LB: I
don’t think I could be
further away from Teresa. She wasn’t a baddie as such, but she was a bit
of a minx, you know, and sometimes that’s quite fun because it’s
something that I would never do. So it’s almost like, getting to live
out this strange lifestyle, like be a fly on the wall and look at how
you could have been in an alternate reality. So I think that’s really
fun about her and I quite miss her in certain ways actually. People have
said, “Oh, would you go back to EastEnders?” And I said, “You
know, I think it would be quite fun,” you know, because I would have to
like refine my character. They didn’t kill us (the di Marcos) off, which
is a nice thing.
WG: Has playing Teresa
made it difficult getting other parts?
LB:
When you’re in a soap,
you get this high amount of recognition, but then when you leave
sometimes they don’t want to touch you with a bargepole because the
general public won’t necessarily believe you as another character yet.
So you have to have this cooling-off period as such, which can take
people ten years, three years, five years, it depends. I’ve managed to
get quite a lot of theatre things.
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WG: What are you working
on next?
LB:
I’m going to play the character
Fairy Bow Bells for a Manchester theatre panto production of Dick
Whittington. He was the Lord Mayor of
London. It
starts on December 10th and it finishes the 4th of January. Pantomime I
think is one of those things that you have a responsibility as a
performer, whether you’re a magician or an actor or a dancer or a
comedian, because you get the children to realise the magic of the
theatre.
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I did it last year, the
same part. I jump on stage and go, “Hello, boys and girls,” very, very
Cockney and a lot of the comedy. I didn’t even realise I was being funny.
The audience laughed. So for me as an actor, with the audience so much on
my side because my character’s amusing and funny and a goodie, it was
really, really fun last year. It’s so high-energy panto and it’s
Christmassy and it’s lovely. So I’m very much looking forward to doing it. |
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